May I please number your points CMS Elise Randolph?

1. They're capless

2. Always hit

3. Can shoot when jammed

4. Can do any damage type

5. They have the most range of any medium weapon.

Agreed, although why is that a problem?

6. They have the highest Alpha of any medium weapon.

Is that right? Lets take my alts Tengu [all lvl5 missile skills inc spec] it has 4 T2 BCUs to get 537 DPS 2059 Alpha [no implants Mjol fury] When I place that against my proteus with 4 magstabs and 6 Heavy Neutrons which pumps 1032 DPS with void 2466 Alpha

Now I know that yes if I changed to Scourge Id get more DPS and Alpha but I don't hit live in a region needing Scourge.

Got an answer for that? didn't think so, TIP get your facts right before you post.

Just spent the last 3 months training to fly a Tengu with T2 missiles for exploration. I guess I'm just ... unlucky.

it's quite funny, that most of the people doing pve were flying caldari, even when fotm-lvl4 tengu was not around.

Chimera? notsureifserious

Only any good if you pimp fit it and are in a Pulsar wormhole.

CCP Fozzie I disagree with reducing the DMG of heavy missiles and all of the above mention penaltie 2 heavy missiles... if u insist on doing it then buff hams so that they have a 15% long range or increases there range from what they are now to 32km (with lvl 5 skills) so that that ppl are incouraged 2 use hams for close heavies for kiting... if u reduce the damage of heavies the tengu will match the drake in dps most importanly because tengu has less missile slots then the drake... so u need 2 give a 10% buff 2 heavy missile bonus 2 the tengu (not the subsystem but the ship itself)... an other note is that drakes have always been more of a kitting ship so making them good with hams would make them match other ships... if u reduce range of hams 2 aprox 18km (max skills) and increase dmg output of them by 15% to match the dps of other close range bc's ull make the drake wanted and more balanced for close range battle verus long range battle... but keeping in mind making that change will still keep drakes popular for kiting with heavy missiles... that is all

Well here's the problem with this. The Hurricane isn't a designated Arty ship. It's both a close combat AC ship, OR a long-range Atry ship. Unless you already plan on screwing us Hurricane pilots by removing that flexibility and forcing into a long-range platform. I haven't yet seen any reason for me to keep playing once the patch goes through if you are going to cripple the Hurricane like this. Additionally, the changes are out of proportion. The Arty PG requirements are being dropped by 10%. The Hurricane is losing 17% of it's overall PG.

By claiming that this change is a 'compensation' for dropping Arty PG requirements you've made a giant fool of yourself CCP Fozzy. Here's what you can do if you are REALLY serious about this being a 'compensation' (when you drop the ship PG by a larger amount than the Arty PG requirements you are obviously doing this for reasons OTHER than 'compensation') then go with a role penalty for the Hurricane when it's using Arty. Like the Destroyers used to have for Rate of Fire. Give a role bonus that causes Arty to use 10% (which is what the Arty PG requirements dropped by), or if you feel really vindictive (since I'm guessing that this change is because CCP Fozzy died one too many times to a Hurricane) then make it where Arty use 17% more PG (since that's how much the Hurricane PG is going to be nerfed by.

I doubt that CCP will do the right thing and only nerf the Arty PG usage on the Hurricane EVEN THOUGH they claimed that this overkill nerf was 'compensation' for something that wasn't really needed imho.